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Making an "Epiphone ES355" - *completed photograph

Postby oasisfan24 » 06 May 2010, 19:52

Has anyone ever tried to make a cheaper replica of Noel's Gibson 355. The only thing is I won't have the selector switch a 355 has because I'm using a Dot but it will be close. Maybe I'll call it an Epiphone 350 due to the minor differences. Biggest pain is that I have to swap out the silver hardware for gold and I'm having a problem getting cheap Epiphone pickups.
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Making an "Epiphone ES355" - *completed photograph

Postby ezwriter » 06 May 2010, 23:32

I've been playing guitar for a long time and I can't tell much, if any difference between a Dot and a real ES-335. The Noel Gallagher is just a tricked out Dot isn't it?
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Postby ezwriter » 06 May 2010, 23:32

I've been playing guitar for a long time and I can't tell much, if any difference between a Dot and a real ES-335. The Noel Gallagher is just a tricked out Dot isn't it?
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Postby ezwriter » 06 May 2010, 23:32

I've been playing guitar for a long time and I can't tell much, if any difference between a Dot and a real ES-335. The Noel Gallagher is just a tricked out Dot isn't it?
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Postby oasisfan24 » 07 May 2010, 15:47

Noel does own a Gibson ES 335 however the one he always uses and the one I'm referring to is actually a Gibson ES 355. It does look similar to a Dot or Gibson 335 however it has some differences, the main one being the All Gold Bigsby B7 Vibrato seen at the bottom of the guitar. This Bigsby is preinstalled during the making of this guitar in place of the bottom part of the bridge therefore not leaving holes in the guitar. There is also differences to the

-Headstock Inlay Design
-Fret Inlays
-Selector Switch (allows for different tones I believe)
-All Gold Hardware
-Vintage Gibson Pickgurd
-Minor difference on the body inlay

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Postby SuperNovaMike » 16 May 2010, 07:09

For f**k sake man!! You CAN NOT duplicate that guitar. There's no way you can get those looks and results without dropping 4 G's. Shoot for something more practical like a Casino or a Sharaton.

Please guys, just remember this..... It's not the guitar, it's the player. I freakin' guarantee that if you faced off against Eric Clapton in a guitar duel, he could play the worst piece of crap guitar ehat has ever been produced, and you could play an ES-355 and you would get destroyed by miles. Believe me, don't worry about the expensive guitar, worry about playing your s**t guitar. The bad ass guitar will come later.
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Postby oasisfan24 » 17 May 2010, 07:37

SuperNovaMike wrote:For f**k sake man!! You CAN NOT duplicate that guitar. There's no way you can get those looks and results without dropping 4 G's. Shoot for something more practical like a Casino or a Sharaton.

Please guys, just remember this..... It's not the guitar, it's the player. I freakin' guarantee that if you faced off against Eric Clapton in a guitar duel, he could play the worst piece of crap guitar ehat has ever been produced, and you could play an ES-355 and you would get destroyed by miles. Believe me, don't worry about the expensive guitar, worry about playing your s**t guitar. The bad ass guitar will come later.


I completely agree Clapton could school anyone using a s**t guitar but Im not trying to make this guitar because I think having one is going to make me better. I'm making this because I love the look of the 355, I'm a fan of oasis obviously and lastly because I can't afford to buy a 5-6 grand guitar. I own an Epiphone Dot and I have most of the other parts that I need the biggest cost is the 57' Classic Plus Gibson Pickups which are like 150 each. Thats all you really need so no it won't require me to drop 4 grand unless i'm actually getting a 355.
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Postby SuperNovaMike » 18 May 2010, 06:46

oasisfan24 wrote:
SuperNovaMike wrote:For f**k sake man!! You CAN NOT duplicate that guitar. There's no way you can get those looks and results without dropping 4 G's. Shoot for something more practical like a Casino or a Sharaton.

Please guys, just remember this..... It's not the guitar, it's the player. I freakin' guarantee that if you faced off against Eric Clapton in a guitar duel, he could play the worst piece of crap guitar ehat has ever been produced, and you could play an ES-355 and you would get destroyed by miles. Believe me, don't worry about the expensive guitar, worry about playing your s**t guitar. The bad ass guitar will come later.


I completely agree Clapton could school anyone using a s**t guitar but Im not trying to make this guitar because I think having one is going to make me better. I'm making this because I love the look of the 355, I'm a fan of oasis obviously and lastly because I can't afford to buy a 5-6 grand guitar. I own an Epiphone Dot and I have most of the other parts that I need the biggest cost is the 57' Classic Plus Gibson Pickups which are like 150 each. Thats all you really need so no it won't require me to drop 4 grand unless i'm actually getting a 355.


If you are trying to make something similar to a Gibson ES-355 from an Epi, I would start with a Sheraton rather than a Dot. The Sheraton has fancier inlays on the fretboard and the headstock that are similar to the 355. You could drop in some Gibson PAF pickups. That would cost you about $250 US dollars. You could get a Bigsby trem for about $120-150, but it would cost more to get it installed than the actual Bigsby. Plus, after the Bigsby is installed, you would have to get the finish touched up because it would leave marks from the holes where the old bridge was. You could definitely do it, but I would say that, with the cost of the guitar included, it would probably cost about $2,000 to get it done right. Oh, and that's not including the "Varitone" switch that's on the 355, but I don't think you could mod that to an Epi without dropping a lot of money. That's alot of cash, but it's cheaper than a Gibson. If you do it, good luck and post pics!!
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Postby wastra » 21 May 2010, 17:01

SuperNovaMike wrote:
oasisfan24 wrote:
SuperNovaMike wrote:For f**k sake man!! You CAN NOT duplicate that guitar. There's no way you can get those looks and results without dropping 4 G's. Shoot for something more practical like a Casino or a Sharaton.

Please guys, just remember this..... It's not the guitar, it's the player. I freakin' guarantee that if you faced off against Eric Clapton in a guitar duel, he could play the worst piece of crap guitar ehat has ever been produced, and you could play an ES-355 and you would get destroyed by miles. Believe me, don't worry about the expensive guitar, worry about playing your s**t guitar. The bad ass guitar will come later.


I completely agree Clapton could school anyone using a s**t guitar but Im not trying to make this guitar because I think having one is going to make me better. I'm making this because I love the look of the 355, I'm a fan of oasis obviously and lastly because I can't afford to buy a 5-6 grand guitar. I own an Epiphone Dot and I have most of the other parts that I need the biggest cost is the 57' Classic Plus Gibson Pickups which are like 150 each. Thats all you really need so no it won't require me to drop 4 grand unless i'm actually getting a 355.


If you are trying to make something similar to a Gibson ES-355 from an Epi, I would start with a Sheraton rather than a Dot. The Sheraton has fancier inlays on the fretboard and the headstock that are similar to the 355. You could drop in some Gibson PAF pickups. That would cost you about $250 US dollars. You could get a Bigsby trem for about $120-150, but it would cost more to get it installed than the actual Bigsby. Plus, after the Bigsby is installed, you would have to get the finish touched up because it would leave marks from the holes where the old bridge was. You could definitely do it, but I would say that, with the cost of the guitar included, it would probably cost about $2,000 to get it done right. Oh, and that's not including the "Varitone" switch that's on the 355, but I don't think you could mod that to an Epi without dropping a lot of money. That's alot of cash, but it's cheaper than a Gibson. If you do it, good luck and post pics!!



You can install a Varitone switch for under $20. The issue here, though, is that you have to be good with woodworking and electronics, and have a lot of patience (because working on 335-shaped guitars is a pain in the arse). The 355 is also stereo, however (though I think he plays it in mono).

By the way- Noel has had a guy hand-wind pickups for him since his early days. he doesn't use the original gibson PAFs. I can't recall the guy's name any longer, to be honest, but I would bet there's an interview out there that has it.
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Postby oasisfan24 » 25 May 2010, 19:03

SuperNovaMike wrote:
oasisfan24 wrote:
SuperNovaMike wrote:For f**k sake man!! You CAN NOT duplicate that guitar. There's no way you can get those looks and results without dropping 4 G's. Shoot for something more practical like a Casino or a Sharaton.

Please guys, just remember this..... It's not the guitar, it's the player. I freakin' guarantee that if you faced off against Eric Clapton in a guitar duel, he could play the worst piece of crap guitar ehat has ever been produced, and you could play an ES-355 and you would get destroyed by miles. Believe me, don't worry about the expensive guitar, worry about playing your s**t guitar. The bad ass guitar will come later.


I completely agree Clapton could school anyone using a s**t guitar but Im not trying to make this guitar because I think having one is going to make me better. I'm making this because I love the look of the 355, I'm a fan of oasis obviously and lastly because I can't afford to buy a 5-6 grand guitar. I own an Epiphone Dot and I have most of the other parts that I need the biggest cost is the 57' Classic Plus Gibson Pickups which are like 150 each. Thats all you really need so no it won't require me to drop 4 grand unless i'm actually getting a 355.


If you are trying to make something similar to a Gibson ES-355 from an Epi, I would start with a Sheraton rather than a Dot. The Sheraton has fancier inlays on the fretboard and the headstock that are similar to the 355. You could drop in some Gibson PAF pickups. That would cost you about $250 US dollars. You could get a Bigsby trem for about $120-150, but it would cost more to get it installed than the actual Bigsby. Plus, after the Bigsby is installed, you would have to get the finish touched up because it would leave marks from the holes where the old bridge was. You could definitely do it, but I would say that, with the cost of the guitar included, it would probably cost about $2,000 to get it done right. Oh, and that's not including the "Varitone" switch that's on the 355, but I don't think you could mod that to an Epi without dropping a lot of money. That's alot of cash, but it's cheaper than a Gibson. If you do it, good luck and post pics!!


Thanks but I think the dot is the best start I cant find any Sheraton's in red and the inlays and the headstock are not similar enough for me so i'll stick with the dot inlays. I already have the Bigsby and i've gotten a quote for installation to be 50 Canadian so it won't be that much. Im not sure about Gibson models of the 335/355 but the bridge on the dot is wedged in silver rings connected to the guitar. When you remove the bridge there should be no damage only you will see the silver ring holes. The get them filled would be the only thing that really raises my cost but I have decided to use a custom made plate to cover it like the old Gibson 355's had. The varitone switch again is a problem ive only seen it on the bb king epiphone dot and that doesn't come in red either otherwise it would have been the best choice.
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